Job for Consultant: Re: [sap-career] SAP Trainer or SAP End User Job

lundi 31 octobre 2011

Re: [sap-career] SAP Trainer or SAP End User Job

Posted by akhilesh (SAP FICO CONSULTANT)
on Oct 31 at 11:52 PM

I think this post has really become so long to discuss. It is already
been Discussed a lot by the Industry experts. I am suggesting not to pull
the thread so long. Its a simple two line discussion if you are not able to
get a job of configurator please go to do some end user job. In the mean
time might be possible that even this opportunity leave your doorstep. Then
you will become frustrated. Get entry to SAP industry. And look I am
suggesting you not to teach as if you by yourself is not able to get a job in
SAP how come you be able to teach someone else. So please dont put somebody
else career in drain.

Thanks
Akhilesh

---------------Original Message---------------
From: Debashish Pal
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 3:06 PM
Subject: SAP Trainer or SAP End User Job

Hi Mr. Vidya Dhar

You are saying certification is an added advantage. Accepted ...but not
mandatory or the basis for getting a job. As far as my background goes I
had an experience in HR generalist profile for 2 years. Currently I am not
working as my last company closed down. As you already mentioned, I learned
form online directly from a freelance trainer based at Hyderabad. I did
manage to get some interview calls from some major IT companies, who are
into SAP consulting (like IBM, Accenture, HCL etc). All they cared about
the amount of prior experience in SAP implementation (or support) I had, as
they required a minimum 2 years prior experience in SAP consulting. They
didn't even bother to ask whether I had passed the SAP certification or
not. As you can easily guess, I got rejected in those interviews due to
lack of prior experience. I gave references of my friends who had passed
their certifications, but still looking for a breakthrough. Later I came to
know that all of my friends, despite having passed their certifications met
the same fate as me due to lack prior experience in SAP consulting,
although they had a good domain experience in HR of 4-5 yrs. When one of my
friends got into an argument with the HR person of one of those companies
by emphasizing on his certification issue, the HR guy candidly said to him
that that they give a damn to the SAP certification, if that is not
supported by a minimum 2 years experience and abruptly hanged up the phone.

As I already mentioned my earlier post I have surveyed many of my friends
and acquaintances in my network, who have done SAP certifications both in
HR as well as in other domains.There are total of 40 such people whom I
surveyed. Almost 85% of them conveyed that the certification didn't help
them to get a job as a SAP consultant. Only those people (6 people out of
40 which comes to 15%), who already had prior 2 to 3 experience in SAP
consulting, did the certification add value to their professional careers
(ie the certification really proved to be an added advantage for only those
6 people out 40, in terms of some overseas assignments and promotions) .

The vast majority of them (34 people out of 40, which comes to 85%) , who
don't have a prior SAP consulting experience, the certification didn't
prove of any significant value, let alone be an advantage. Despite passing
the certification test, these 34 people are either working as SAP end
users or they have returned to their respective domain jobs or working as
trainers in those small time institutes to make out a living. This is case
of those people who had paid approx INR 4 lakhs, for the ILT (some went for
the OLT and paid approx INR 2 lakhs) in those SAP authorized training
institutes like NIIT or Siemens. As far as I am concerned, I don't have any
prior experience in SAP Consulting. I only have 2 years domain experience
in HR. Its not amount of money but the value from money that matters. How
can be assured of a job in SAP consulting even if I spend INR 2 lakhs for
my SAP certification (assuming that I go for the OLT option) ???? And if at
all I land up in a job as SAP end user despite passing the SAP
certification, why should I spend INR 2 lakhs in the first place??? Please
advise.

Also throw some light on what are chances of moving from end user to
implementation (or support). If I join as an end-user, perform well and
build a good rapport with my seniors, is there any chances that I will be
able to migrate to SAP implantation at later point of time. How much time
does it take approximately.???.

Please advise on these issues so that I am able to take a final decision.

Also thanking you from the bottom of my heart for all your suggestions and
advice till now, as I find your posts most useful as compared to other
posts.

Regards---
Debashish

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